Tauranga to fluoride water despite mayor no-vote

Fluoride will be added to Tauranga's water from October 24. Photo / File

New Tauranga mayor Mahé Drysdale has voted against adding fluoride to Tauranga’s water.

The Olympic rowing champion says he has “real question marks around safety” and wants more assurances it did not pose a risk, despite health authorities saying community water fluoridation is a safe and effective way to reduce tooth decay.

Tauranga’s water will be fluoridated by October 24 after a majority of councillors supported the move at a council meeting on Monday.

It must do so to comply with the director general of health’s directive to fluoridate for 30 days before November 30 or risk a fine of up to $200,000 plus $10,000 per day if non-compliance continued.

The fluoridation directive first made by then-director general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield in 2022 said he had considered the scientific evidence and was “satisfied that community water fluoridation is a safe and effective public health measure that significantly reduces the prevalence and severity of dental decay”.

It has been continued by current director general of health, Dr Diana Sarfati, who last month denied the council’s request for a deadline extension.

Community members against fluoridation filled the public gallery and protested outside before Monday’s council meeting started.

Drysdale told the meeting he had concerns about fluoride’s impact on people’s health.

He wanted Sarfati to consider evidence released since 2021 when an evidence update supported the conclusion of a 2014 Chief Science Advisor’s report that there were no adverse health effects of water fluoridation.

The mayor wanted assurance from her after viewing newer information that she “still believes that it is safe for the whole community and there is no risk of reducing cognitive ability or IQ.”

Tauranga mayor Mahé Drysdale said he had questions about the safety of fluoride. Photo: Alisha Evans/SunLive.
Tauranga mayor Mahé Drysdale said he had questions about the safety of fluoride. Photo: Alisha Evans/SunLive.

Drysdale also wanted Safarti to confirm the directive considered the Bill of Rights and did not give “unjustified limitations” to it.

“I would like to see the director-general come out and give us those assurances if she’s going to double down and ensure that we actually fluoridate our water.”

In November 2023, a High Court judgement questioned whether fluoridation directives considered the Bill of Rights. The director-general’s analysis of this is ongoing.

She and the Attorney General have appealed the decision, which is scheduled to be heard in June 2025.

In February, the High Court found the existing directions to fluoridate were legal and valid.

Some councillors were concerned it would be unlawful not to agree to fluoridate.

Drysdale said the council’s legal advice was that the directive had been found legal by the courts.

The council had also been advised councillors could be held personally liable if they acted outside the law and caused a loss, which they may have to pay for, he said.

Tauranga Deputy Mayor Jen Scoular said it would be unlawful not to comply with the fluoridation directive. Photo / Alisha Evans
Tauranga Deputy Mayor Jen Scoular said it would be unlawful not to comply with the fluoridation directive. Photo / Alisha Evans

Deputy Mayor Jen Scoular said the council was in an “uncomfortable situation”.

“Our legal advice today is that it would be unlawful not to comply with the directive.

“As a lawful citizen and a lawful councillor, I believe this is the only option we’ve got ahead of us.”

Councillor Rick Curach said he would always take the lawful approach, which prompted heckling from the public gallery.

The issue was with the government and the “noise needed to be directed there,” he said.

Councillor Steve Morris said he did not have concerns about the health aspects of fluoride but had significant concern around the Bill of Rights.

The council had tried to find a way to not breach the law but if it did not comply with the order, it would, he said.

“I have sworn an oath to uphold the law as it relates to this council.”

Councillor Glen Crowther wanted to know if the fines would be enforced. Photo / Alisha Evans
Councillor Glen Crowther wanted to know if the fines would be enforced. Photo / Alisha Evans

Councillor Glen Crowther wanted to find out from the director-general if she would enforce the fines.

In the June 2024 judicial review, her lawyer stated there was no indication Sarfati would take enforcement action on the fluoridation directives, he said.

Crowther wanted clarification about this from Safarti, and said if the fines would not be enforced the council could wait until the legal process around the Bill of Rights was complete.

“It’s still not following a legal directive, but the fact would remain that she has said she’s not going to enforce it, so to me that would count for quite a lot.”

Drysdale said he would be “happy to take that risk of being outside the law” if enforcement action would not be taken.

This was met with applause from the public gallery.

Councillor Hautapu Baker said it was not about the fines, but whether the council was acting lawfully.

“Our role as good governors is to ensure that we are upholding the law to the best of our ability.”

The vote to fluoridate was split with six in favour and three against.

How they voted:

For: Jen Scoular, Steve Morris, Rick Curach, Hautapu Baker, Rod Taylor, Kevin Schuler.

Against: Mahé Drysdale, Marten Rozeboom, Glen Crowther

Absent: Mikaere Sydney.

 

LDR is local body journalism co-funded by RNZ and NZ On Air.

12 comments

Damed if they do, and Damed if they don’t

Posted on 16-10-2024 07:35 | By waiknot

Really the noise does need to directed at our local MP's not council.


Not safe ?

Posted on 16-10-2024 08:01 | By an_alias

So we have Europe who has banned fluoride in water, the USA federal ruling it is not safe. Only 5% of the worlds water puts fluoride in it.
People who are happy to risk the health of our children should be held accountable.


Why Stop at Flouride?

Posted on 16-10-2024 08:13 | By bigted

We need more happiness in our world. I know! Let's add valium to our water. Less flu? Let's add Vitamins to our water. Hmmm... the possibilities are endless.
No, mass medication is not acceptable, ever.


Just say no

Posted on 16-10-2024 08:23 | By Saul

There is so much evidence lately against fluoride being added. If anyone did there research you would know it's actually a toxic waste!! We shouldn't be exposing our children to this.
If anyone wants fluoride give them free fluoride tablets....


No Councillor Baker,

Posted on 16-10-2024 08:51 | By Bruja

your chief role is to act for the greatest well-being of those you represent and to do what they are wanting.....democracy Cr Baker, not autocracy.

The bottom line is that this is being FORCED onto us. Forcing us to ingest a chemical against our will. THAT is not legal. If it was legal then they could also have FORCED us to take Covid vaccinations, it's that simple. It's illegal to not be given the CHOICE of whether to ingest a chemical or not. Simply illegal.


No change then

Posted on 16-10-2024 11:11 | By scott

I have it on good authority that if you wear a tin foil hat when you brush your teeth you are immune from the nasty fluoride bugs.
A pity the new council is as lame as the one replaced by the commissioners.


Misinformation.

Posted on 16-10-2024 11:23 | By davidt5

Alias is not being honest in their description of the USA ruling that fluoridation is not safe. Many people receive artificially-fluoridated water in about 24 countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Republic of Ireland, Malaysia, the U.S., and Vietnam. 57.4 million people receive naturally occurring fluoridated water at or above optimal levels in countries such as Sweden, China, Sri Lanka, Finland, Zimbabwe and Gabon. Significant areas of Britain are fluoridated. Birmingham started 50 years ago and there is no call to reverse the treatment.
Please be honest when making comments on Fluoridation.


more misinformation

Posted on 16-10-2024 13:06 | By KiwiDerek

Just further correcting Alias' information regarding flouride in Europe:
Water fluoridation has been replaced by other modes in many countries where water supplies are too decentralized for it to be a practical choice, or existing natural fluoride levels were already ample, including Germany, Finland, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland and Denmark


Just add a drop

Posted on 16-10-2024 14:23 | By Jules L

What is the government directive on fluoridation, does it require any particular amount? What if we add a single drop of fluoride per day into our system, does that meet the obligation to fluoridate?


lawful

Posted on 16-10-2024 15:09 | By an_alias

Come on guys, are you really comparing Natural fluoride to Man made by-products and believe there is no difference ?
Have I got a bridge to sell you two....!
Lawful, so next time the government passes a law that is crazy we all just say, oh they said we had to....
What poor advice from Council, oh you will be held accountable....heck you guys are like Teflon, nothing sticks to you......should we bring up the car park building ? Just endless and never accountable yourselves when it suits


Hmmm

Posted on 16-10-2024 16:53 | By Let's get real

Well done davidt5.... We need to treat the anti floride and the global warming zealots with the same contempt as we do the verbal diarrhea that is spewed by Donald Trump.
Far too often minority groups pick an obscure or false report and hold it up as the ultimate truth. The green movement is one of the worst offenders.
But we live in New Zealand, where sheep abound and reading is for the weak minded.


Prof

Posted on 16-10-2024 17:09 | By Hugh

Not safe
Not effective.
Local MP completely out of touch and invisible over this


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